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Sandregisisle DeAustrasia DeBibigny (580)

Sandregisisle DeAustrasia DeBibigny
Born in Bibigny, Neustria now Belgium or Austrasia, Francemap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died [date unknown] in Seigneur, Bibigny, Neustria, Belgiummap
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Biography

. No solid evidence has been found either of his existence or parentage. He appears frequently in popular genealogies, but without sources inspiring confidence or any sources at all. Even the place associated with him in name, Bibigny, is posing difficulties in location.

Supposed facts about him are presented below as research notes to facilitate discovery of additional information about him or legends surrounding him.

Research Notes

Name

  • Sandregisisle Seigneur de Austrasia de Bibigny [1]
  • Sandregisisle of Bobigny [2]
  • Sandregisisle de Bibigny [3]

580 Birth

Geni presents him as born about 580 in Bibigny, Neustria (now Belgium) and as the son of Mummolin, Mayor of the Palace of Neustria [3]

Location

He appears in locations named both as Bibigny and Bobigny. Bibigny is the older location name and is associated with Neustria. Bobigny today is a prefecture in the northeast suburbs of Paris. [4]

Siblings

Geni presents him as the brother of[3]

  1. ... de Metz
  2. Sigolène d'Austrasie

Geni presents him as the half brother of[3]

  1. Ratbod de Auvergne
  2. Gallus Magnus of Rome

Marriage

Boddy presents Sandregisisle of Bobigny marrying Gertrude. [2][5]

Delaforce [6] presents the relationship as non-marital and describes Gertrude as the daughter of Theodebald who founded the convent at Hamage near Douai and became its first abbess.

Delaforce notes that Gertrude's status as abbess did not interfere with her having a child, Bertrude, by Ricomer de Bourgogne, and then, after his death, a daughter, Nanthild, by Sandregisisle. [6]

660 Death

Geni gives him a death year of 660.[3]

Issue

Different genealogies give him different children:

  1. Lanthegisel (Geni) [3]
  2. Nantilda of Bobigny (Marlyn Lewis) , born around 610, died around 641 [5]

Delaforce presents "Nanthild de Bobigny (610-642) as the daughter of Sandregisisle de Bobigny (590 - ?) and Gertrude Abbess d'Hamage (570 - 12/649). Nanthild herself is then the wife of Dagobert I (602 - 19/1/639 Saint Denis) King of Austrasia 623-632 & France from 628, and they are the parents of Clovis II King of Neustria & Burgundy (633 or 4 - 31/10/657) [6] However, no documentation has been found to support this. Documentation by Cawley concerning Nanthild, tends to refute such a connection. This documentation [7] includes:

  • The "Liber Historiæ Francorum," refers to her as Saxon; and the "Gesta Dagoberti," calls her German.
  • She is first referred to, ante 629/30, as maiden of the bed-chamber and only after 19 Jan 639 as Regent.

Sources

  1. Wikitree datafield, not otherwise sourced.
  2. 2.0 2.1 Maurice Boddy Web Site showing Middle & Far East Families, Merovingian, 7/7/2007. Cited by Marlyn Lewis. Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins Sandregisisle of Bobigny Last edited 26 December 2010. Accessed July 20, 2018 jhd
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 Geni. Sandregisisle Added by: James Frederick Pultz on December 23, 2007; Managed by: Jan Meijnaerts and 24 others; Curated by: Pam Wilson. Accessed July 20 2018 jhd
  4. Wikipedia: Bobigny
  5. 5.0 5.1 Marlyn Lewis. Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins Sandregisisle of Bobigny Last edited 26 Dec 2010. Accessed July 20, 2018 jhd
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 Patrick Delaforce and Ken Baldry. The Delaforce Family History Research © Patrick Delaforce & Ken Baldry 1980-2006 Page 209. Accessed July 21, 2018 jhd
  7. Charles Cawley. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy. Medieval Lands Database. Merovingians Dagobert Accessed July 21, 2018 jhd

Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile DeAustrasia DeBibigny-1 created through the import of jefflorrie(1).ged on Sep 10, 2011 by Jeff Johnson. See the DeBibigny-1 Changes page for the details of edits by Jeff and others.




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